Saturday, February 8, 2025

Special Edition: DeepSeek’s AI Breakthrough – Is China Changing the Game?

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We're diving into the Chinese chatbot DeepSeek and what it means for America's AI race with China.

Why did DeepSeek send shockwaves through the U.S.? How does its security stack up against TikTok? And what could it mean for the world if China takes the lead in AI? The stakes are high, and the consequences could be wide-reaching.

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Guest: Bill Drexel

Bill Drexel is a fellow with the Technology and National Security Program at the Center for a New American Security (CNAS). His work focuses on Sino-American competition, artificial intelligence, and technology as an element of American grand strategy. Previously, Drexel worked on humanitarian innovation at the UN (International Organization for Migration) and on Indo-Pacific affairs at the American Enterprise Institute.

Always seeking on-the-ground exposure, Drexel’s career has ranged from serving as a rescue boat driver during Libya’s migration crisis, to conducting investigative research in the surveillance state of Xinjiang, China, to supporting humanitarian data efforts across wartime Ukraine. Drexel has been the recipient of numerous academic awards, including the Fox Fellowship to Jawaharlal Nehru University (New Delhi), the Schwarzman Scholarship (Beijing), and the Research Award in Grand Strategy (Yale).

Drexel’s opinion is regularly sought out by outlets spanning The Economist, TIME, CNN, and South China Morning Post, and his commentary has appeared in publications such as Foreign Affairs, The Washington Post, The Wall Street Journal, and CNBC. Drexel holds a BA from Yale University and master’s degrees from Cambridge University and Tsinghua University.

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